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This is Bill Lough of Michigan City, Indiana.

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This case consists of individual accounts of witnesses of an unusual area that was based

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on the general area of the United States Coast Guard Station and the Port of Fire

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building that the life sign of Michigan City, Indiana on Friday night, June 20, 1969.

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These accounts have written in the other, and they were recorded and improved statements

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from the following.

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Corporal James R. Kaplan and Sergeant Blankin Hilberg, the President of the Michigan City

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Police Department, United States Coast Guardman, Vane Cunan, Robert Davenport, Charles Dolan,

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and Russ Garantino, all present at the Michigan City Life Sign.

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Robert Harrenson, other policemen for the Michigan City Port Authority.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan City Port Authority on Saturday 9 June 28.

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The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg was recorded in the office of the

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Michigan State direction of the Office of the President only in fact under ВAUST.

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and now the very first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg experience

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was recorded on Saturday. The first statement by the Texas Copling and Hilberg

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was recorded below the Internet WHAT's going on,

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the fifth single words on Sunday, the second single of Tuesday, Thursday,ocken of shoe

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has broken. Coll jerk sign. Six statement with the email

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and he was half a mile off of here in the church,

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a very bright, orange and white light

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in the corner of the church.

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And he turned around with a house.

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He was lying there, he was giving an estimate,

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and he had passed through the same side of the light

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that he found in the lighthouse.

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And this was too high off in the water

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to be any part of the boat.

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It was not a floor, it was sitting still.

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There was not a real sign of the late church.

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There was no noise whatsoever.

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So we started to clear the new closet.

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So we marked out his way, come over our heads and heads

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and get a look at what he's worth.

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And we called the, we called off the radio back.

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We got a letter from the church that he could drive

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thousands of miles to hold on his way back

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to where we were left at.

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He got back and just continued our back

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and it's clear that somebody was just,

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he just smugged the fire and it clearly died out

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and he stayed awake.

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And he said and talked about this

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and the fortified boat was being loaded.

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And he turned around and looked back over Michigan City

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and saw the radiation over 300 by information

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and a higher altitude, a high, the altitude

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of maybe 2,000 feet or 3,000 feet

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and it's high to sell it now.

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For a 1 in front of him,

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2 on each side of him was drawing along the storyline

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to the left, south right

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so the road was beaten into out on the left.

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From the far side of the first lane

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so about 20 minutes after the fort was going to last one

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so he stepped in, saw it on the left

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and he saw the period of that.

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54 midnight

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and usually one of those is the side of that lane.

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All together he said he saw the one very bright lane

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and the other lane was about to turn into 9-11

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and one of the famous weeks

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was probably the one with the longest streets

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so that was being loaded with weapons and some plates

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and they used to load the water

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and saw it to see the phone call

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and there was some more objects being seen on the coastline station

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and we went off to June Valley

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and then the right of the lane

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we also went to the deputy market for the Mucula

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and we were selling stock off out of basin

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and we got out of the way

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and he said he had seen 50 targets

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and followed us in stock 33

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and he said he had not seen anything else

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and he said he had not seen anything else

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and then the different streets

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and then the light of the island

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and he said he saw more out in the west than he could see

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and then he caught the spotted trees

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and I was just throwing my arm around

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and I was being put in the line

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and I was just searching and I said

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he hadn't seen anything of me

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and I was going to go to bed

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and I went back to the basin

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and I was going to the side of the mixer

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and I was going to go to the basin

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and he asked for a personal sanity

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and I took him down to the coastline station

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and he spotted the object

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and he marked it with some type of arrow

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and when he stopped in the middle

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and he covered over the bay

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and it could be in the southwest

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and the mixer was down in the basin

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and he pulled around in the back of the mixer

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and he didn't know if he had to go to the west

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and the only other thing I could do

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and I did it

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I was doing it for four years

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in the state of Northland

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and Northland from South Park

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and I was also in the West

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and I was in South Park

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and I was in South Park

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and I had never been in the East

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but I was just in the West

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and I had no idea what I was going to do

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and there was no other way

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to get to the island

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and I had no idea what the other thing was

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yes, I knew

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I was lost over

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and I was driving on this

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into the State Department

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I was with the Corps of Corporants

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and I was driving

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and of course

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I was so highly encouraged

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and I was there

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and Christian did he do

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and I was going to go

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and I was just going to go

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and I wanted to swim and go

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and I said

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I pulled over

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the little human

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that wasn't talking

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the little human

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that was in school

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and they were running

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and the little human

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the followingasanct

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by 4 United States Coast Assasin

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were also given on the night of Saturday

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the day of my race

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about 1 hour after from

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Mitch chest Statue ofitaries

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The recording was done in the office of the coast guard.

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I'm a student in the United States Coast Guard,

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my name is Jordan Klugeman. I was on watch at the time

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and was fighting. I lived there about nine o'clock that night

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and I notified the OOD that I was

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observing something turning around

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to call a barrier, an ice barrier, and over Lake Michigan.

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At first they were small objects,

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only maybe a little bigger than a pier, so I figured they were moving around

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and they seemingly could stand still or move at any time

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and act well and all of a sudden they'd be there and wonder

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if they wouldn't be, just like they'd blink off and on, and they'd seem to show up at different

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areas and seemingly they could move at any time.

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At times they were different colors, sometimes

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they were white, sometimes almost an orange, and sometimes a pinkie.

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At 50,000, quite a distance, so then

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at an hour and a half they'd be one that decided that

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it was not too fast on the space itself.

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Even more unusual one of the full nights was

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when we saw that what's likely was

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5, 10 miles out on a lake, but it was so wide and so bright

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that it seemed like it was right off on an ace in navigation.

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I could see it through the binoculars

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and I was very, very glad I was seeing it by the party and I was seeing

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it kind of separate and maybe a flare up.

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It seemed to be in this one position

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and it was like hovering over the lake

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and it looked like it was rotating

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as that seemed to make sense.

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It had something that looked like it was going on in the center area

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with red, white, green, and orange as we remember it.

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Lights located around the center of whatever this object was.

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During the time I was thinking I had a new paper man

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he asked me certain questions and I told him that

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to me it most certainly had to have been an affair. I think it couldn't have been a losing area

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of any kind of infection at all. It looked good and I was going about my mind

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how to get infected by this person and their genes and rights

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and the life of the team and the light out front and the white background

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and all of that. It made some funny

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noises and it wasn't really funny but I did see it the way it was in the early days

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for something that we just saw from a weaponry infection after a thing.

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I'd say and of course you know I saw maybe 20, 25 of these things

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and some of them weren't very impressive just like that

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blinked off an iron move that was going well. But like I said the one with

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the seemingly dice and very intense and party-mortem-yugos and the little thing I've seen in the screen

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I was Robert Devin for the author of the day

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and then I just answered and I seen it kind of before the

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me that he thinks I'm a very bad object like in there

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and I went down to my bed and

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I've seen a pretty good start going through the light

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and it's kind of like a flare and after that

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the one thing that I heard was two other small ones just flew away from it

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and it kind of like it went over to Gilly and

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I kept watching it swing on and on and on going towards Gilly and the

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chakagura and the other thing

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went away and it wasn't up and down and it got

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I guess about 10 months later

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it was looking like the one I heard was a big

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big orange light and it was like

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I don't know just a big ball of fire and it was right over to

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Gragelon and I had me confused. I don't know how far it was

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but it was so bright that I was right over it just about and it stayed up

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about two or three minutes and then it just disappeared and it went

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away and

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I started seeing more of these orange lights and red ones

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and green ones all over the place and it was a good death. I had never seen that from

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I just before but I called, that's what I've been saying here and I called

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Ciparillo, our group office and they called

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again and they called and called and I had to check with their airport

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to the airport to get any airplanes or anything in the vicinity. I thought they might

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have been on drill and dropped the flags or something but about

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five or six minutes later I got a call from the car and there was no

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aircraft that was floating in the air and not on the way to the

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gender. Not only leaving, there was a flying car for the same kind of

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UFOs. Everything that they liked it. It was pretty bright

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and it definitely went in the airplane and in the helicopter.

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My name is

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Charles R. Bones, I'm from Mesa,

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I can't remember what the other two guys had said

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about this thing and I think I've seen about the same thing they've seen

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and I wasn't sure it was kind of weird and I've never seen nothing like it in my life before

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and I agree I don't think it was another plane or a helicopter

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My name is Cep Tan, I've seen anything like this

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and I've seen a lot of people say

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not too much that I could add on to this, but

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I've never seen anything like this before. Well I have seen something, I thought

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of the North Pole about two months ago, I've got three of them, it wasn't as long

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as we were fighting these, the colors were the same

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they were farther away, but other than that

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it was the only kind of hurricane I've seen before and these here were more

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I don't know how to say it

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they stood out, the ones I would tell you before

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they weren't as close, they weren't as bright

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they were working

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that night, it was real clear, the lake was calm, there was a good

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river, we could see all the way across to

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see the sea all the way across to Chicago, there was

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clouds at all in the sky, that's about it

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this is clear in the S&M

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just adding to what I said earlier, about a month ago I had

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seen something similar, we see a lot of this through our watch windows

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because we've got to be aware of flays and other emergencies

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that make happen in the lake, and about a month ago I was on watch

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and I saw a number of these that not like red and white

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but at that time I saw a truly small one

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and the white one was in a car, they were

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flying low or a horizon and then off and there

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they raised that time and seen it, they went

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into this bigger one, and then the bigger one kind of lit up a little bit

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and then it just blinked out all of that and went, I don't know

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What a story to play, and Robert Hansen's

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story was decided when we moved into the Port of Thar, the office

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on Monday night June 30

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following the Star of the Heart of the

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and the Heart of the Flames, the Port of Thar is

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next to the city on the left, and the place

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of June the 20th, on a Friday night

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I was going to be the

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of Latter-Far, the park street

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June 25th, I received a call

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from the Mission City Police Department

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to be on the lookout for unidentified objects

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flying over the lake, like missions

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I was on the phone

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talking to the officers, the best judges

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in my office, on the harbor

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all the lights was out in my office, and I happened to

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look out over the lake and see a bright light

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and I just, somebody else

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told me that's all of it, I was calling back, right away

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I got my binoculars, walked out of

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one of the dots, and happened to see

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dodgy following it, and it was so many of them

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it was flying across the lower east

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and as long as I was out on the dots, one of the

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coast guard boards ran over, and one of them

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was out in my office, so it could get a better view of it

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I went over, and was out behind the coast guard station

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and I had three others, and they went with me

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as we were watching their dodgy from here

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and then I had a call from the police department

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they were just trying to pick me up

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before the crime got to my position

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and started back to the office, and this object was coming here

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and it seemed like it would get

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set down, over down, over the lake

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something that I had never seen before

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and all of them, in the best of my knowledge

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were seeing this object

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and there was one of the thickness, the color of the object that I had ever seen

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and then the crime card picked me up

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and we went out to the pier, because I wanted to get a better look at it

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and we got out just before it got to the pier

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and we went out, and the object looked at us

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and it was one of the weirdest, winkily-flicking objects that I had ever seen

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and I had witnessed it, went with a famous object

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but there was no movement in the object, and there was always a light

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of bright, yellow, pinkish-flicking color

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and the object left the water and was covered over the water I'd say

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around five seconds and as the object lifted up

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it had a terrific speed

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we tried to get it up, but we could get a better look at it

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but it was less to say

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and it wouldn't get to it

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closer to us to identify anything that was on any movement

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as the object water had stayed about 1500 feet

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the light completely went out

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and we started it again

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and it showed up again and we're flying north-west

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the direction is to cover it

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and I would say it was a couple of miles from the target

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and where we were there

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that the object made a right turn

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all the right corner of it was on it went out

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and as we started again

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it was coming back in our direction

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flying north-east

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and it also had three red-coach limits

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in the same category

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we followed it

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to upper Banaca Zone

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we followed it

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and in the outskirts

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and this was here very north of Cockleys

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and we had other people that went this way

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and it flew in this direction and made a circle

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and I would say over Lachon City

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and back on its course back north-west to Chicago

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we followed it

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to upper I-Zone

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so it disappeared

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all this particular night

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the weather was clear

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the fire was clear

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the moon was bright

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and the sound of this object

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automatic flash

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a first jet

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and others

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or some of those motors and whatever

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but here

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one I have never heard of

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and a different this object had

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the light was gone

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there was no wind

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it would feel that night

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and these objects

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flew to a course

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north-west to Chicago

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back to Lachon City

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and I would say approximately

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five minutes

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to eleven

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we noticed

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there was other objects in the air

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applying the same course back to lower east

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we watched these objects

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and all together the time

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the ones before and these ones

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would be approximately 45 minutes

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the name is flying on a course

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no construction

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over Lachon City

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and over Lachon City

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but no other time

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have I ever spotted

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anything over Lachon City

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or Lachon City

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or any facilities that I have ever seen

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they said

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let the Ohio City

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Midway

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Airport

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and also

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New New Naval

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there was no aircraft

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any facilities at that time

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that these objects

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were in the air

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so as my, to my opinion

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I would have no comment

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over what I think these are

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no statement I could not make

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the only thing that I can say

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is I think these things

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and they happen, these objects

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and I'm telling what I know

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to the person's mouth

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to the door

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this is in the city of the problem

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and Tony Regal's comment

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where he called in his home

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at 11.05 feet on Thursdays July 3

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I am Tony Charles Regal

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from Lachon City Police Department

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I'm a regular patrolman

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on the night of Friday, June the 20th, 1969

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I received a call

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from the station

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to go to

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the harbor

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at Lake Michigan

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and meet a officer

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Harrington

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and go to

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the pier that they had seen

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from unidentified objects over the lake

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I then

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went to the

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Port Authority where Mr. Harrington

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was at

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and on my way there I noticed

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a large orange ball

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or an object

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out in the lake

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so at that time I think that

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Harrington we drove through the lake

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I got out of the flood turn

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and walked up on the pier

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and noticed the

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objects that I had noticed

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at first

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hovering over the water

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but unfortunately he stayed off of the water

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staying in that same position

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for approximately a minute and a half or so

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then

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the object rose straight up

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I wouldn't know exactly how far

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00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:02,180
but then the

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object started going toward Chicago

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and then just disappeared

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so we stayed there

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00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:12,180
and just

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kept watch on the area for the while

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then

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directly behind us

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through the east

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we noticed three

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objects

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flying or

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they were together

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going around

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00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:33,180
Michigan City

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00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:37,180
which appeared to be one escorting another

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00:29:37,180 --> 00:29:39,180
and

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we had very few for a while

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and they were moving

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at tremendous speeds at times

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00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:50,180
and they would seem to slow down

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00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:53,180
and they also would change

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their color

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from orange to white

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I was there for personally one hour

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in which I observed these objects

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with my naked eye

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00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:12,180
while standing on the pier

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observing

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the wind was

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from the north

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to northwest

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at approximately 10 to 20 mile an hour

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the waves were

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coming in and stacking up over the

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pier at the time

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my first impression of the object

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was that it might be a helicopter

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but due to the

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sudden speed

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of the object going in the north

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to northwest direction toward Chicago

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caused my thinking to

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be led in another direction because

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the objects

526
00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:58,180
same color

527
00:30:58,180 --> 00:31:01,180
once or twice from orange to white

528
00:31:01,180 --> 00:31:03,180
and then from white to orange again

529
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:07,180
and

530
00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:09,180
the object

531
00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:11,180
recovered over the water

532
00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:13,180
then it started to rise

533
00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:17,180
and slow down and not real fast

534
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:20,180
but when it reached the certain altitude

535
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:22,180
it

536
00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:25,180
started going in the direction of Chicago

537
00:31:26,180 --> 00:31:27,180
and

538
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:29,180
as the object

539
00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:32,180
was out

540
00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:34,180
approximately one mile

541
00:31:34,180 --> 00:31:36,180
it disappeared

542
00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:38,180
but

543
00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:41,180
disappeared before the object was out of sight

544
00:31:43,180 --> 00:31:44,180
is a

545
00:31:44,180 --> 00:31:47,180
that's another reason why I didn't think that it was a

546
00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:51,180
a helicopter because of the sight that it

547
00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:53,180
disappeared before it got out of sight

548
00:31:53,180 --> 00:31:55,180
to the best of my knowledge I have never

549
00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:58,180
seen anything like this

550
00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:00,180
and don't

551
00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:05,180
and don't have any idea of what it

552
00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:07,180
could have been

553
00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:11,180
so my Ted Stance

554
00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:13,180
there is a kind of incident in his home

555
00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:15,180
at 321st-Nastie

556
00:32:15,180 --> 00:32:17,180
on Sunday, July 6th

557
00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:21,180
my name is Ted Stance

558
00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:23,180
I'm also the Mission City Police Department

559
00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:25,180
Mission City Indiana

560
00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:28,180
I've been in San Francisco for 3 1⁄2 years

561
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:30,180
in Mission City

562
00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:32,180
and

563
00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:36,180
I'm fighting these new 20s

564
00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:41,180
I've been in the station to get up to the car

565
00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:45,180
when inside the station it was talking to the radio operator

566
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,180
he was

567
00:32:46,180 --> 00:32:48,180
down at the radio operator

568
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:50,180
he was telling me about Scone

569
00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:53,180
he was telling me that people had seen down at the later

570
00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:57,180
I didn't take the pictures very seriously

571
00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:01,180
and he told me if I wanted to

572
00:33:01,180 --> 00:33:03,180
he said why don't you take the ride down there

573
00:33:03,180 --> 00:33:05,180
and see what's down there

574
00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:07,180
and I told him I would I said but I'm not crazy about it

575
00:33:07,180 --> 00:33:08,180
because it

576
00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:11,180
brought me 10, 15, 20 minutes after 10

577
00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:13,180
close to quitting time

578
00:33:13,180 --> 00:33:14,180
which was at 10.30

579
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:16,180
so I could ride down there

580
00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:18,180
and I stopped in the

581
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,180
nearly close to that station

582
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:23,180
about that time a friend of mine was a security

583
00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:25,180
officer

584
00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:26,180
the

585
00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:28,180
late friend Bob Hollington

586
00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:30,180
he was whispering and

587
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:32,180
he was moaning to me from over there and taking a look at

588
00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:35,180
the strange oddities on this side

589
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,180
and I parked the car and went over there

590
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:40,180
and Bob and another fellow

591
00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:42,180
I just didn't know what his name was

592
00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:43,180
a Coast Guard member

593
00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:45,180
I was looking at these oddities with fields

594
00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:47,180
with a pair of fields like these

595
00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:49,180
and I took

596
00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:50,180
maybe in the field last week

597
00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:51,180
and I took a look at

598
00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:55,180
these flying oddities

599
00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:59,180
and the first thing I seen

600
00:33:59,180 --> 00:34:01,180
and I believe it was the first one I seen

601
00:34:01,180 --> 00:34:02,180
I probably got a good look at his

602
00:34:02,180 --> 00:34:04,180
and then here are the others

603
00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:05,180
others that I saw

604
00:34:05,180 --> 00:34:07,180
and there was a green

605
00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:09,180
more or less a blue

606
00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:10,180
a green oddity

607
00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:12,180
in the sky

608
00:34:13,180 --> 00:34:14,180
and it was probably asking me

609
00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:16,180
if there was something missing to it

610
00:34:16,180 --> 00:34:18,180
and I probably missed

611
00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:21,180
the web of the Coast Guard Station in the street

612
00:34:22,180 --> 00:34:23,180
and there were

613
00:34:25,180 --> 00:34:26,180
I can't remember now to think about

614
00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:28,180
I believe four or five

615
00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:29,180
I believe I had a nice nice guy

616
00:34:29,180 --> 00:34:31,180
you could see him with the naked eye

617
00:34:31,180 --> 00:34:33,180
but you could see him

618
00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:35,180
I can't really say clear

619
00:34:35,180 --> 00:34:37,180
you could see him clear with the field

620
00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:39,180
but they were all the fighting words

621
00:34:39,180 --> 00:34:40,180
and they had a difference

622
00:34:40,180 --> 00:34:42,180
and still a probably off

623
00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:45,180
he was standing color

624
00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:46,180
that I noticed about

625
00:34:46,180 --> 00:34:47,180
and that was the green

626
00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:48,180
and he was yellow

627
00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:49,180
and the weather finally

628
00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:50,180
you could see a little corn

629
00:34:50,180 --> 00:34:51,180
I can't remember

630
00:34:52,180 --> 00:34:54,180
and I was just one for

631
00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:55,180
I'd say after this

632
00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:57,180
right now I'd say it was

633
00:34:57,180 --> 00:34:58,180
probably close to a minute

634
00:34:58,180 --> 00:34:59,180
at least 30 seconds

635
00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:00,180
and I walked in

636
00:35:00,180 --> 00:35:01,180
and it was

637
00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:02,180
flying enough

638
00:35:03,180 --> 00:35:04,180
and I was a bit

639
00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:07,180
and there was only one

640
00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:08,180
field last week

641
00:35:08,180 --> 00:35:09,180
a month or two

642
00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:10,180
and at about this time

643
00:35:10,180 --> 00:35:12,180
I called one in Holber

644
00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:13,180
came up to the North side

645
00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:16,180
and she showed us one field last week

646
00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:18,180
and Bob Hollingson

647
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:20,180
told us this earlier

648
00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:22,180
about 15, 20 before this time

649
00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:23,180
this was approximately

650
00:35:23,180 --> 00:35:25,180
I don't know 10, 30, 25, that's a 10

651
00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:27,180
he said that one of these guys

652
00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:28,180
he could come right down near the field

653
00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:30,180
and he was close to the field

654
00:35:30,180 --> 00:35:31,180
and it was close to the field

655
00:35:31,180 --> 00:35:32,180
and that's when I

656
00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:35,180
really became interested in what I could do

657
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:37,180
because I couldn't throw out

658
00:35:37,180 --> 00:35:38,180
an awful lot

659
00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:41,180
there was a terrible distance

660
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:43,180
there were a long way from where we were at

661
00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:44,180
I think that's the

662
00:35:45,180 --> 00:35:46,180
Bob said that

663
00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:48,180
when I came down to the base water

664
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:49,180
and I looked at him like

665
00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:50,180
he was going to hit the

666
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:52,180
government pier

667
00:35:53,180 --> 00:35:54,180
and it turned

668
00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:55,180
and he went straight up in the air

669
00:35:55,180 --> 00:35:57,180
and he said he made a heck of a noise

670
00:35:57,180 --> 00:35:58,180
and I asked him

671
00:35:58,180 --> 00:35:59,180
he heard any noise

672
00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:01,180
there's any engines or motors on his thing

673
00:36:01,180 --> 00:36:03,180
and he said he heard a heck of a noise

674
00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:04,180
like a real

675
00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:06,180
awful motor or engine

676
00:36:07,180 --> 00:36:08,180
and

677
00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:10,180
at the very time I

678
00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:13,180
and I was talking to Bob

679
00:36:13,180 --> 00:36:14,180
in the field last week

680
00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:16,180
and we were going to pass down the water

681
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:18,180
in three or four columns

682
00:36:18,180 --> 00:36:19,180
at the rest of the time

683
00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:22,180
he came back to me and I looked at another one

684
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,180
and it was green and yellow

685
00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:26,180
and what I'm saying was awful fuzzy

686
00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:27,180
and

687
00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:31,180
and it was awful

688
00:36:31,180 --> 00:36:33,180
the main thing I can remember about these

689
00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:35,180
uh, obviously I can't remember for sure

690
00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:36,180
there were four of them

691
00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:37,180
and I was like

692
00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:39,180
I'll tell everybody at the very beginning

693
00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:40,180
several of them

694
00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:41,180
and

695
00:36:41,180 --> 00:36:42,180
when the hiring team

696
00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:43,180
they were going one direction

697
00:36:43,180 --> 00:36:44,180
and then they came to the floor

698
00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:45,180
and walked to another

699
00:36:45,180 --> 00:36:46,180
and

700
00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:47,180
and I looked at them

701
00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:50,180
and I looked at them

702
00:36:50,180 --> 00:36:51,180
all together

703
00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:52,180
it was four or five minutes

704
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:53,180
with the field brasses

705
00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:54,180
of course when I didn't have them

706
00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:55,180
I couldn't see them with the naked eye

707
00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:57,180
and you could see them with the naked eye

708
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:58,180
and

709
00:36:58,180 --> 00:36:59,180
they didn't just

710
00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:03,180
they

711
00:37:07,180 --> 00:37:08,180
and

712
00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:11,180
the opposite was I saw in the sky

713
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:15,180
what an ordinary type of aircraft

714
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:16,180
I've never observed before

715
00:37:16,180 --> 00:37:18,180
and I've spent seven years in the field

716
00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:20,180
four years in the Navy

717
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:21,180
and three years in the Army

718
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:23,180
I'm using that one

719
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:26,180
and in both services I was with

720
00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:27,180
in the Indian Ocean

721
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:29,180
and

722
00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:30,180
I'm not even a story

723
00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:31,180
you can't write something

724
00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:33,180
but

725
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:35,180
I've been around everything from

726
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:38,180
jet-frame to airships

727
00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:39,180
to planes

728
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:40,180
it was the Navy I was stationed in

729
00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:42,180
and I had to play with New Jersey

730
00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:44,180
and the thing that I did for my aircraft

731
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:45,180
commercial aircraft

732
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:46,180
North Aircraft

733
00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:47,180
they had a road fitting light

734
00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:48,180
or a light which brings off and on

735
00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:49,180
they're as far as

736
00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:52,180
navigational lights

737
00:37:52,180 --> 00:37:53,180
under the land

738
00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:55,180
tail of the aircraft

739
00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:56,180
and the big field was

740
00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:57,180
just one continued light

741
00:37:57,180 --> 00:37:59,180
so they didn't bring it off and on

742
00:37:59,180 --> 00:38:01,180
and I had in the whole office

743
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:03,180
the color

744
00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:04,180
yellow and green

745
00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:06,180
of course the green is the most

746
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:08,180
is the color that I think they remember

747
00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:10,180
and I've seen enough aircraft

748
00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:11,180
commercial aircraft

749
00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:12,180
and military

750
00:38:12,180 --> 00:38:14,180
you know that this wasn't an ordinary aircraft

751
00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:20,180
and it follows

752
00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:21,180
the direction of travel

753
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:22,180
or the movement of these

754
00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:24,180
on-the-side and very

755
00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:26,180
another reason that they

756
00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:27,180
definitely once

757
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:28,180
commercial or military

758
00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:30,180
or ordinary type of aircraft

759
00:38:30,180 --> 00:38:32,180
was the Urabic movement

760
00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:33,180
so there was no

761
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,180
it didn't seem to be any

762
00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:35,180
set course

763
00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:36,180
they once

764
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:38,180
in one direction

765
00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:39,180
had a high rate of speed

766
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:40,180
and I remember

767
00:38:40,180 --> 00:38:41,180
glad to see they too of course

768
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:43,180
that they were moving very fast

769
00:38:44,180 --> 00:38:45,180
and they'd go in one direction

770
00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:47,180
for maybe 10 or 12, 15 seconds

771
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:48,180
a short time

772
00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:50,180
go a long way in this time

773
00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:51,180
and then they'd

774
00:38:51,180 --> 00:38:53,180
go down and then go another way

775
00:38:53,180 --> 00:38:54,180
just maybe the opposite way

776
00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:55,180
or a little bit

777
00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:57,180
a zigzag course

778
00:38:57,180 --> 00:38:58,180
the pattern in the inside

779
00:38:58,180 --> 00:39:00,180
there was no set course like me

780
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:04,180
and as I say I was down there

781
00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:05,180
for all together probably

782
00:39:05,180 --> 00:39:06,180
close to 20 minutes

783
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:07,180
15 to 20 minutes

784
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:09,180
and the object

785
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,180
from the start all the time

786
00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:12,180
they weren't coming any ground

787
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:13,180
they'd go

788
00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:15,180
off into the distance

789
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:16,180
in the north

790
00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:17,180
or north east

791
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:19,180
they would be direction

792
00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:20,180
and then they'd come back

793
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:21,180
to the north and up west

794
00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:25,180
and as far as the

795
00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:26,180
movement of the objects

796
00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:28,180
when they did change course

797
00:39:28,180 --> 00:39:29,180
there was no

798
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:31,180
round movement

799
00:39:31,180 --> 00:39:33,180
no arching or

800
00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:37,180
movement around

801
00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:38,180
was such an ordinary aircraft

802
00:39:38,180 --> 00:39:39,180
where they

803
00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:40,180
no affairs

804
00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:41,180
the big aircraft

805
00:39:41,180 --> 00:39:42,180
would make it was a short time

806
00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:43,180
two guys would

807
00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:44,180
whatever they were

808
00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:47,180
would go at a high rate of speed

809
00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:48,180
and then 15

810
00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:49,180
would go down and go

811
00:39:50,180 --> 00:39:51,180
in fact it would stop

812
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:52,180
and go in

813
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:54,180
exactly opposite direction

814
00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:55,180
there was no high arching

815
00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:56,180
or anything like that

816
00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:57,180
no

817
00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:01,180
I don't know

818
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:03,180
exactly

819
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:04,180
I don't have any idea

820
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:05,180
what these objects were

821
00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:06,180
that I saw

822
00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:09,180
most of my

823
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:11,180
life I always thought

824
00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:12,180
that the possibility

825
00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:13,180
was always there

826
00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:15,180
that our own airport

827
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:17,180
might have some kind of high speed

828
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:18,180
aircraft

829
00:40:18,180 --> 00:40:19,180
different places

830
00:40:19,180 --> 00:40:20,180
I'm sure we have

831
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:23,180
air bases up in northern

832
00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:24,180
Michigan and New York

833
00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:26,180
and up in New Bruns and

834
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:27,180
northern Wisconsin

835
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:28,180
and I'm sure

836
00:40:28,180 --> 00:40:29,180
I know we have

837
00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:30,180
a lot of

838
00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:32,180
possibly different parts of

839
00:40:32,180 --> 00:40:33,180
Canada

840
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:34,180
I'd say

841
00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:35,180
or somewhere up there

842
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:36,180
that's an ordinary thing

843
00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:37,180
there's no about it

844
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:39,180
but

845
00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:40,180
because I

846
00:40:40,180 --> 00:40:41,180
they said I was talking to them

847
00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:42,180
but they should have been

848
00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:43,180
out of Michigan

849
00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:44,180
and Michigan and off the lot

850
00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:45,180
of strange things

851
00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:47,180
where she was

852
00:40:47,180 --> 00:40:48,180
and of course

853
00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:49,180
a lot of times I don't know

854
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:50,180
what she said

855
00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:51,180
but she is

856
00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:52,180
she is

857
00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:55,180
a great 74-75 years old

858
00:40:55,180 --> 00:40:56,180
and she has an imagination

859
00:40:56,180 --> 00:40:57,180
because she doesn't ever

860
00:40:57,180 --> 00:40:58,180
man-made it

861
00:40:58,180 --> 00:40:59,180
it's out in the country

862
00:40:59,180 --> 00:41:00,180
but my only thing

863
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:01,180
and I

864
00:41:02,180 --> 00:41:04,180
I don't believe

865
00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:05,180
myself

866
00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:06,180
if he was these or any kind of life

867
00:41:06,180 --> 00:41:07,180
so a lot of people

868
00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:08,180
have told me that they felt they were alive

869
00:41:08,180 --> 00:41:09,180
but people have told me

870
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:10,180
that those people

871
00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:11,180
that didn't see these objects

872
00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:12,180
and I saw them

873
00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:14,180
this time out

874
00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:15,180
I've been seeing some news guys

875
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:16,180
and I couldn't answer myself

876
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:18,180
and get an answer later on

877
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:19,180
and get one to the news

878
00:41:19,180 --> 00:41:20,180
paper and the radio

879
00:41:20,180 --> 00:41:21,180
and

880
00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:24,180
they definitely were some of the Illuminati

881
00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:25,180
and I

882
00:41:26,180 --> 00:41:27,180
said well because I see it next month

883
00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:28,180
I'll be an artist

884
00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:29,180
I'll be on midnight

885
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:30,180
and I'll surely down there

886
00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:31,180
looking for them again

887
00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:32,180
you know

888
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:33,180
and I hope that

889
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:34,180
I see them again

890
00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:35,180
these are very interesting

891
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:38,180
Michigan City

892
00:41:38,180 --> 00:41:39,180
News and Fast reporter

893
00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:40,180
Bill Allen

894
00:41:40,180 --> 00:41:41,180
made this statement

895
00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:42,180
in my home

896
00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:44,180
at 222 San Evan

897
00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:45,180
on Monday evening

898
00:41:45,180 --> 00:41:46,180
July 7th

899
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:48,180
Christ was listening

900
00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:49,180
to any of the previous

901
00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:50,180
accounts

902
00:41:51,180 --> 00:41:52,180
Bill Allen

903
00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:54,180
reported the crisis

904
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:55,180
for the most

905
00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:56,180
of that Michigan city

906
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:58,180
the event in question

907
00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:59,180
happened on

908
00:41:59,180 --> 00:42:00,180
June the 20th

909
00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:03,180
sometime after 11 o'clock

910
00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:08,180
I was at the office

911
00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:11,180
when I heard some conversation

912
00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:13,180
I nodded some conversation

913
00:42:13,180 --> 00:42:14,180
on a police radio

914
00:42:14,180 --> 00:42:15,180
from the police department

915
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:16,180
which made me scared

916
00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:18,180
but I went down to the lake

917
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:20,180
where two or three people

918
00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:22,180
were telling what they saw

919
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:25,180
somebody pointed out

920
00:42:25,180 --> 00:42:26,180
some objects in the sky

921
00:42:27,180 --> 00:42:28,180
which looked about like

922
00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:30,180
airplanes

923
00:42:31,180 --> 00:42:32,180
from a distance

924
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:33,180
with all of these

925
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:34,180
various colors

926
00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:35,180
that they were running like

927
00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:36,180
running together

928
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:37,180
and pointing these out

929
00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:38,180
as flying off the

930
00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:39,180
Michigan

931
00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:40,180
zooming around

932
00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:42,180
I didn't put too much

933
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:44,180
credence in it

934
00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:45,180
since

935
00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:47,180
I was in the

936
00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:48,180
making of it

937
00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:49,180
it was about like

938
00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:50,180
airplanes

939
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:52,180
later I went over to the

940
00:42:53,180 --> 00:42:54,180
coast guide

941
00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:56,180
and in the course

942
00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:57,180
of getting a story

943
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:59,180
from the coast guide

944
00:42:59,180 --> 00:43:00,180
on what they had seen

945
00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:02,180
to write for the next day

946
00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:03,180
newspaper

947
00:43:04,180 --> 00:43:05,180
somebody saw one of them

948
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:07,180
off to the west

949
00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:09,180
and after looking at them

950
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:10,180
to binoculars

951
00:43:11,180 --> 00:43:12,180
and with me to binoculars

952
00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:13,180
so I could look at them also

953
00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:14,180
and the

954
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:16,180
to the naked eye

955
00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:18,180
it looked about like

956
00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:19,180
the objects

957
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:20,180
which I had seen earlier

958
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:22,180
in fact

959
00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:23,180
thought of where we were

960
00:43:23,180 --> 00:43:24,180
in an airplane

961
00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:26,180
through the binoculars

962
00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:27,180
a fork

963
00:43:31,180 --> 00:43:32,180
well it looked

964
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:33,180
as if it was a kitchen

965
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:34,180
as if it was a kitchen

966
00:43:34,180 --> 00:43:35,180
which you hear many other times

967
00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:37,180
they looked electrical

968
00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:39,180
they had a pulsating

969
00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:40,180
red light

970
00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:42,180
on the bottom

971
00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:43,180
the

972
00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:45,180
thighs

973
00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:47,180
that I saw

974
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:48,180
through the binoculars

975
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:50,180
was probably about the size of a

976
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:52,180
perhaps a few

977
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:55,180
the outline

978
00:43:56,180 --> 00:43:57,180
was

979
00:43:57,180 --> 00:43:58,180
I think lines

980
00:43:58,180 --> 00:43:59,180
each yellow on the top

981
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:02,180
the pulsating

982
00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:03,180
red light

983
00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:04,180
was around the bottom

984
00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:05,180
and looked at this

985
00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:06,180
that were a

986
00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:08,180
red neon

987
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:11,180
clip

988
00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:13,180
which perhaps was

989
00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:15,180
um

990
00:44:15,180 --> 00:44:16,180
the fourth

991
00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:17,180
on the fourth quadrant

992
00:44:17,180 --> 00:44:18,180
there was

993
00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:20,180
four different places

994
00:44:20,180 --> 00:44:21,180
on the disk on the bottom

995
00:44:22,180 --> 00:44:24,180
I had no idea what it was

996
00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:28,180
or what size it

997
00:44:31,180 --> 00:44:33,180
or anything else about it

998
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:34,180
other than I just know

999
00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:35,180
I can give it a kitchen

1000
00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:36,180
or whatever they saw

1001
00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:37,180
or whatever they saw

1002
00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:42,180
I think there were

1003
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:43,180
either three or four objects

1004
00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:45,180
which were pointed out

1005
00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:48,180
to the west

1006
00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:49,180
by one of these persons

1007
00:44:49,180 --> 00:44:50,180
when I was down on the

1008
00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:52,180
shore itself

1009
00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:53,180
and down in the Washington

1010
00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:54,180
parking lot

1011
00:44:56,180 --> 00:44:57,180
then

1012
00:44:57,180 --> 00:44:58,180
I thought

1013
00:44:58,180 --> 00:45:00,180
I think one of the two of the

1014
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:01,180
possibly three more

1015
00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:03,180
to the

1016
00:45:03,180 --> 00:45:04,180
northeast

1017
00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:07,180
and how long were they

1018
00:45:07,180 --> 00:45:08,180
I had no idea

1019
00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:10,180
because I didn't pay

1020
00:45:10,180 --> 00:45:11,180
much attention to them

1021
00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:12,180
other than

1022
00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:13,180
noticed them and then

1023
00:45:13,180 --> 00:45:14,180
go on to the

1024
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:16,180
next side of the business

1025
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:17,180
in Chinese and power

1026
00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:18,180
story because

1027
00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:19,180
I said I thought they were

1028
00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:20,180
really airplane

1029
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:22,180
when I was in the

1030
00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:23,180
coast side

1031
00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:25,180
station

1032
00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:26,180
and saw the

1033
00:45:26,180 --> 00:45:27,180
light to the west

1034
00:45:30,180 --> 00:45:31,180
I

1035
00:45:32,180 --> 00:45:33,180
observed it probably

1036
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:34,180
for

1037
00:45:34,180 --> 00:45:35,180
a couple of minutes

1038
00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:36,180
and when it went after

1039
00:45:36,180 --> 00:45:37,180
I visited

1040
00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:38,180
I don't know because

1041
00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:39,180
I handed the glasses back

1042
00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:40,180
to the individual

1043
00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:42,180
who had shown it to me

1044
00:45:44,180 --> 00:45:45,180
I can tell you nothing

1045
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:47,180
about which direction it was going

1046
00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:48,180
or if it was moving

1047
00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:49,180
or going up and down

1048
00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:50,180
or what because

1049
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:52,180
if it was moving

1050
00:45:52,180 --> 00:45:53,180
I was moving the glasses with it

1051
00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:55,180
the sky

1052
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:57,180
and this happened

1053
00:45:57,180 --> 00:45:59,180
around midnight sometimes

1054
00:46:00,180 --> 00:46:01,180
the sky was clear

1055
00:46:02,180 --> 00:46:03,180
there was a wind coming

1056
00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:04,180
out of the north

1057
00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:07,180
the waves were breaking

1058
00:46:08,180 --> 00:46:09,180
then later on

1059
00:46:10,180 --> 00:46:11,180
I went home

1060
00:46:11,180 --> 00:46:13,180
told my 17 year old son

1061
00:46:13,180 --> 00:46:14,180
about it and he insisted

1062
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:15,180
we go back

1063
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:16,180
and we went back

1064
00:46:17,180 --> 00:46:18,180
and

1065
00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:19,180
could see objects on the

1066
00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:20,180
skyline

1067
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:23,180
also this shape

1068
00:46:25,180 --> 00:46:26,180
literally down around

1069
00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:27,180
as you saw

1070
00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:28,180
we could see the light

1071
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:29,180
as you saw it though

1072
00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:30,180
and they were in that area

1073
00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:34,180
but we couldn't distinguish

1074
00:46:34,180 --> 00:46:35,180
any colors

1075
00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:36,180
they were quite small

1076
00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:37,180
probably

1077
00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:39,180
as bad as a baby is smaller

1078
00:46:44,180 --> 00:46:45,180
we could see the light

1079
00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:46,180
as you saw it though

1080
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:48,180
and they were in that area

1081
00:46:50,180 --> 00:46:51,180
but we couldn't distinguish

1082
00:46:51,180 --> 00:46:52,180
any colors

1083
00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:53,180
they were quite small

1084
00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:54,180
probably

1085
00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:56,180
as bad as a baby is smaller

1086
00:46:58,180 --> 00:46:59,180
we also had

1087
00:46:59,180 --> 00:47:00,180
two different occasions

1088
00:47:00,180 --> 00:47:01,180
the two of us

1089
00:47:01,180 --> 00:47:03,180
both with an acre of iron

1090
00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:04,180
we could see

1091
00:47:04,180 --> 00:47:05,180
a binoculars

1092
00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:09,180
what started out

1093
00:47:10,180 --> 00:47:11,180
as a sky

1094
00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:12,180
seemed to be

1095
00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:15,180
a different color of the sky

1096
00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:18,180
but yet

1097
00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:20,180
it got progressively brighter

1098
00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:22,180
until it probably was

1099
00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:26,180
five or ten times

1100
00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:29,180
bigger and brighter as a sky

1101
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:31,180
and it was fluctuating

1102
00:47:31,180 --> 00:47:33,180
its intensity of light

1103
00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:35,180
and then eventually

1104
00:47:35,180 --> 00:47:36,180
disappeared

1105
00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:37,180
the person we saw was

1106
00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:40,180
could be south of the light

1107
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:41,180
as you saw it

1108
00:47:41,180 --> 00:47:42,180
or the second one

1109
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:43,180
or to the north of the light

1110
00:47:43,180 --> 00:47:44,180
as you saw it

1111
00:47:44,180 --> 00:47:46,180
both of them had a box

1112
00:47:48,180 --> 00:47:49,180
so

1113
00:47:49,180 --> 00:47:51,180
five or six or ten degrees

1114
00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:52,180
above the horizon

1115
00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:54,180
both of them had

1116
00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:56,180
the intensity they already got

1117
00:47:56,180 --> 00:47:58,180
was once again